KOMMONSENTSJANE – The U.N.’s $300 Billion Climate Deal: Progress and Controversy at COP29.

11/30/2024

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The U.N.’s $300 Billion Climate Deal: Progress and Controversy at COP29

Posted by Daniel Olivier | Nov 24, 2024 

The U.N.’s $300 Billion Climate Deal: Progress and Controversy at COP29

The United Nations climate summit in Baku, Azerbaijan, concluded with an agreement that seeks to inject $300 billion annually into the global fight against climate change. This funding is intended to assist developing nations in transitioning to clean energy, adapting to climate impacts, and addressing the mounting damage caused by extreme weather events. While the deal has been hailed as a step forward, it has also drawn criticism for falling short of the financial support many nations deem necessary.

The agreement has sparked a mix of hope and frustration, underscoring the complexities of international climate negotiations.

A Framework for Funding

The $300 billion climate financing deal, set to triple previous commitments, builds on earlier agreements made at the 2009 Copenhagen summit. Under the new deal, developed countries—including the United States, European Union members, and other historically high emitters—pledged to significantly increase their financial contributions by 2035.

The $300 billion annual target is expected to be sourced from a combination of public and private financing. Developed nations are tasked with leading the contributions through their government budgets, but the agreement also emphasizes the role of private sector investments and multilateral development banks in reaching the goal. Additionally, the deal introduces the idea of “alternative sources,” which include potential global taxes on industries such as aviation and maritime shipping. The hope is that these diverse funding streams will not only meet the immediate $300 billion target but also pave the way for the larger $1.3 trillion goal envisioned for the next decade. However, concerns remain about whether these sources will be sufficient and whether funds provided as loans could further burden already indebted nations.

European Union Climate Commissioner Wopke Hoekstra expressed optimism, stating, “With these funds and with this structure, we are confident we will reach the $1.3 trillion objective.” However, this larger goal is not yet guaranteed, relying heavily on private sector contributions and multilateral development banks to supplement government financing.

While the $300 billion commitment marks a significant increase from the $100 billion pledged in 2009, it remains well below the $1.3 trillion annually that experts and developing nations argue is necessary by the next decade.

A Polarized Response

Despite the agreement, tensions ran high at COP29, with many developing nations expressing frustration over what they perceived as inadequate funding and unfair negotiation processes. India’s delegate, Chandni Raina, criticized the agreement in stark terms, calling it a “paltry sum” that does not meet the urgent needs of vulnerable nations. “It’s too little, it’s too distant. It is 2035, too far gone,” she remarked, highlighting the disappointment felt by many developing countries.

Others echoed these sentiments. Nigeria’s Nkiruka Maduekwe described the deal as “an insult and a joke,” while Juan Carlos Monterrey of Panama noted that although minor improvements were made in the final hours—such as adding the phrase “at least” before the $300 billion target—the agreement ultimately failed to inspire confidence. “Our heart goes out to all those nations that feel like they were walked over,” Monterrey said.

Criticism was not limited to the funding amount. Many delegates were angered by the way the agreement was pushed through. Mukhtar Babayev, the COP29 President, gaveled the deal into acceptance before some nations had the opportunity to speak. This procedural move sparked outrage, with Raina accusing the process of being “unfair” and “extremely hurtful.”

The Bigger Picture

Despite the ambitious-sounding numbers, the $300 billion deal is only a fraction of the funds required to address the goals fo the U.N. Experts estimate that the total cost of adapting to climate change and transitioning to green energy in developing nations will reach trillions of dollars annually by 2030. As it stands, the $300 billion commitment barely scratches the surface of these monumental financial demands.

Adding to the complexity, developed nations have historically struggled to meet even smaller funding commitments. A $100 billion annual climate financing goal set in 2009 was only achieved in 2022, two years behind schedule. This history raises doubts about the feasibility of the new, much larger target.

Political uncertainty in donor countries further complicates the situation. In the United States, the incoming Trump administration has signaled plans to cut climate financing and withdraw from the Paris Agreement. Elon Musk, tasked with overseeing federal spending cuts under Trump, has already called climate-related jobs in federal agencies “fake jobs.” Such rhetoric casts a shadow over the U.S.’s ability to fulfill its commitments, potentially leaving Europe and other developed nations to fill the funding gap.

Divisions Over Responsibility

One of the most contentious aspects of the negotiations was the question of who should bear the financial burden of climate change. Wealthy nations have pushed for higher-income developing countries—such as China and Saudi Arabia—to contribute to climate financing. While these countries are classified as “developing” under U.N. treaties, their economic growth and rising greenhouse gas emissions have led to calls for a reevaluation of their responsibilities.

China, now the world’s largest emitter of carbon dioxide, has resisted such changes, emphasizing that it already provides bilateral aid to poorer nations. China has already committed to building over 100 new coal fired generating plants. Since 2016, China has contributed $25 billion to green energy projects in other developing countries. The final agreement reflects a compromise, encouraging—but not requiring—wealthier developing nations to make voluntary contributions.

This issue has further divided the developing bloc, with smaller nations like those in the Alliance of Small Island States demanding more immediate and substantial support. Evans Davie Njewa of Malawi noted that while his country supported the agreement, it did so with reservations, reflecting the broader dissatisfaction among the most vulnerable nations.

Missing Commitments on Fossil Fuels

Another major disappointment for climate advocates was the absence of explicit language calling for a transition away from fossil fuels. At last year’s COP28 in Dubai, nations had agreed to such a transition, but this commitment was notably missing from the Baku agreement. Instead, the final text included only a vague reference to the Dubai deal, which many see as a concession to oil-producing countries like Saudi Arabia.

Tamara Gilbertson of the Indigenous Environmental Network criticized the deal for undermining efforts to limit warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius, calling it a “climate scam” riddled with loopholes. This omission has left activists and negotiators questioning the seriousness of global commitments to reduce emissions.

While the $300 billion climate financing deal represents progress, it also highlights the vast challenges that remain. U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres acknowledged the shortcomings of the agreement, stating that it “provides a base on which to build” but expressing hope for a “more ambitious outcome” in the future.

Attention now turns to COP30 in Brazil, where negotiators will have another opportunity to address unresolved issues, including the scale of funding and the transition away from fossil fuels. For now, the Baku agreement is a reminder of both the strides made and the obstacles that lie ahead in the fight against climate change.

The question remains: Will the world’s wealthiest nations step up to meet the urgency of the climate crisis, or will vulnerable nations continue to bear the brunt of inaction?

Editor’s Notes: Clearly the U.N. is attempting to shame the U.S. into funding a great deal of this, but they are not prepared to deal with Trump. The timing is such that Biden’s Ambassador to the U.N., Linda Thomas-Greenfield, would not fight this. We have noted before that subsidies are keeping renewable energy artificially high, so this funding may end up doing more harm than good.

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KOMMONSENTSJANE – What the 2024 polls got right — and what they got wrong.

11/30/2024

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The 2024 polls predicted some key demographic shifts ahead of the presidential race.

The 2024 polls predicted some key demographic shifts ahead of the presidential race.

With nearly all the ballots now counted in the 2024 election, we can fully evaluate the performance of the national and battleground polls this cycle.

The verdict: They weren’t perfect, but they were more right than wrong — especially given the polling industry’s challenges and recent misses.

Let’s start with the presidential horse race numbers. The final national NBC News poll had Donald Trump and Kamala Harris tied at 49% each, while the national RealClearPolitics average of the two-way contest was Harris 48.7%, Trump 48.6%. And The New York Times’ average was Harris 49%, Trump 48%.

The actual result in the popular vote as it currently stands, which you can expect to change slightly amid the very last counting of ballots: Trump 49.9%, Harris 48.3%.

While the 2024 national polls — on average — slightly overstated support for Harris and narrowly understated it for Trump, they turned in one of the best performances in presidential polling over the past decade, according to historical data from the Pew Research Center.

And it was certainly better than polling’s big miss in 2020.

The battleground polls also weren’t far off the mark, either, although their misses were slightly larger than what we saw in the national polling.

If there’s a perception the polls were wrong in 2024, it’s due less to the actual level of polling error and more to the mistaken impression that political horse race polls can be precise measurements — for example, that 49%-48% or 50%-48% results can perfectly predict who’s going to win a contest and by how much.

Given polls’ margins of error, historically low response rates when reaching voters, different assumptions about the electorate and, yes, past polling misses, expecting that kind of precision from political polls has become a fool’s errand.

In other words, all that those 49%-48% and 50%-48% results can tell us is that the race is close.

And that’s exactly what the presidential election proved to be nationally and in the key battlegrounds.

What else the polls got right

Beyond signaling that the 2024 presidential election was competitive and uncertain, the polls nailed the political atmospherics that shaped the contest.

That included an electorate that mostly saw the nation headed in the wrong direction, with an incumbent president, Joe Biden, whose approval rating was stuck in the low 40s — a historical danger zone for the party controlling the White House.

As it turns out, the NBC News Exit Poll found 73% of voters saying they were angry or dissatisfied with the country’s direction, and only 40% approved of Biden’s job performance.

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Additionally, the polls foretold many of the key demographic trends that ended up defining the 2024 election, including Trump’s gains with Latino voters.

The NBC News/Telemundo/CNBC Latino poll was among the surveys showing those Trump gains well before the election. Many polls also caught on early to Biden and Democrats’ relative struggles with young voters compared to other recent elections, particularly among young men.US:Why everyone is excited about this $59 New Blood Sugar Smartwatch

Another thing the polls got mostly right in the 2024 election were Democratic downballot candidates who had been consistently overperforming Biden (when he was in the race) and then Harris (once she became the nominee), as well as Republican downballot candidates who had been underperforming Trump in the polls.

That dynamic played out in the election, with Democratic Senate candidates winning in four states — Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin — despite Harris losing in those same states.

What the polls got wrong

But the polls, including the NBC News survey, erred in overstating the size of the gender gap when it came to Harris’ support among female voters and Trump’s backing among men.

According to the exit poll, Harris won female voters by 8 points, and Trump won men by 13 points — a 21-point gender gap that was consistent with recent presidential elections. That was smaller than the 30-point-plus gender gap that the NBC News poll had been showing.

(That said, there was a massive gender gap when combined with race and education, with Harris winning white women with college degrees by 16 points, and with Trump winning white men without college degrees by 40 points — a whopping 56-point gap in the margin between those two different groups.)

And most significantly, the polls once again understated Trump’s support, albeit by a smaller amount than they did in 2020. That came despite polling outfits recalibrating and using new weighting methods in their polls in an attempt not to miss Trump’s voters.

Still, this was the first presidential cycle where many polls showed Trump either ahead or essentially tied — which wasn’t the case in 2016 or 2020, even though that’s how those elections turned out in many contests.

The mixed record on party ID

One of the biggest divides in the 2024 polling were the national polls (including NBC, CNBC and The Wall Street Journal) showing Republicans with an advantage in party identification, versus other national polls that had Democrats with the lead in party ID.

It was the latter group of polls that usually showed Harris ahead of Trump, although within the margin of error.

But in the end, Republicans indeed enjoyed the advantage in party ID, according to the exit poll.

That was a major story in the 2024 election: There were more self-identified Republican voters than Democratic voters.

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KOMMONSENTSJANE – Israel cease-fire deal has critics worried over Biden-Obama officials looking to stymie incoming Trump admin.

11/30/2024

By casting Biden and Harris as mere placeholders, Trump suggests that the real decision in 2024 will be whether or not the nation submits to an ideology he believes is intent on reshaping America.

Remember Trump WAS ELECTED.

Now we know the rest of the story – nearly 60 Percent of Biden’s Cabinet Appointments So Far Are Obama Officials. Strange no one mentioned this before?

TRUST – BUT VERIFY! Why is Obama sticking his nose in the deal? It states that Obama’s people are working for Biden – REALLY. Obama is not an elected official and has no right to have his people under his control involved in the government and making future decisions for the U.S.

Since Biden is going to be out of office – why not wait until the next administration to MAKE A BETTER DEAL and not hog-tie the next administration? Why does Biden want to strap the U.S.?

Again – trust but verify. Obama has no right to be making decisions for the U.S.

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JERUSALEM— Amid the start of a cease-fire on Wednesday between Israel and the Iranian regime-backed Hezbollah terrorist movement in Lebanon, some leading Republican lawmakers accused President Biden of browbeating Israel into a temporary suspension of the war as the Jewish state staged a near-take down of the terror group’s leadership and military structure. A new $59 smartwatch that monitors blood sugar painlessly in just a few seconds

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) reached the Litani River in Lebanon on Tuesday. A key war goal for the IDF is to push Hezbollah forces north of the Litani River. Under the cease-fire deal, Hezbollah is required to move its forces north of the Litani, which in some places is about 30 kilometers (20 miles) north of the border.

Yet, the reported threat of Biden imposing a weapons embargo on Israel pulled the plug on Israel’s penetration of Hezbollah-controlled territory in southern Lebanon, according to regional experts and several lawmakers.

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“The cease-fire agreement does not diminish what Israel managed to achieve in short order against Hezbollah. Within two months, it dismantled its infrastructure along the border, decapitated its entire senior command structure, destroyed a large percentage of its arsenal, and killed and injured thousands of its fighters,” Tony Badran Levant, analyst and news editor at Tablet Magazine, told Fox News Digital.A new $59 smartwatch that monitors blood sugar painlessly in just a few seconds

Describing the move by former officials from t Obama administration who now work in the Biden administration, he said, “What the Obama-Biden team did on their way out was to coerce the Israelis, reportedly with the threat of an arms embargo at the Security Council, into signing onto Obama’s vision for the U.S. role in Lebanon, which is part of his broader pro-Iran realignment. This is the downside of the agreement: it consolidates this Obama framework that should have been dismantled—and that’s separate from the tactical and strategic gains that Israel achieved on the battlefield. Rather, this pertains to U.S. policy and how the Obama-Biden team used Israel to lock in their regional preferences.”

He continued, “The deal puts the incoming Trump administration and the Israelis in a weird situation, not just because it saddles the new administration with Obama’s preferences in Lebanon—including hundreds of millions in additional aid to the Lebanese Armed Forces—but also it makes the U.S. an arbiter for Israeli action against Hezbollah moving forward and the possibility for friction that may create between the Trump administration and Israel.U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein speaks during a press conference after meeting with Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri in Beirut on March 4, 2024. Reuters

U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein speaks during a press conference after meeting with Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri in Beirut on March 4, 2024. Reuters© Reuters

“Meanwhile, the Obama-Biden team has set their structure in place. If the incoming administration keeps it, that would be great for the Democrats, who will pick it up on the other end and expand on it. In any case, they have a document—a bilateral side agreement—that will be there for a future Democratic administration,” he warned.US:Why everyone is excited about this $59 New Blood Sugar Smartwatch

Amos Hochstein, the presidential envoy who brokered the deal, told Israel’s Channel 12 evening news anchor Yonit Levi that he had informed President-elect Donald Trump’s team about the tenets of the deal “because it’s very important for them to understand and support it, because they are going to have to carry it forward and implement as they took office in just a few weeks.”

Echoing Badran’s warning, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas., noted in a statement that “I am deeply disturbed both by reports that Obama-Biden officials exerted enormous pressure on our Israeli allies to accept this cease-fire and by how those officials are characterizing Israel’s obligations. This pressure and these statements are further efforts to undermine Israel and constrain the incoming Trump administration. Obama-Biden officials pressured our Israeli allies into accepting the cease-fire by withholding weapons they needed to defend themselves and counter Hezbollah, and by threatening to facilitate a further, broader, binding international arms embargo through the United Nations.”

Hezbollah launched rocket attacks a day after the Hamas massacre of nearly 1,200 people on Oct. 7, 2024 in southern Israel. The Iranian regime-backed Hamas terrorist movement slaughtered more than 40 Americans during the invasion. 

According to the left-wing Israeli Haaretz newspaper, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s aides said Biden threatened a weapons delivery stoppage for Israel if Jerusalem continued to prosecute its war in Lebanon. The second Biden threat reportedly involved a U.S. refusal to veto a potential U.N. Security Council resolution that would hurt the Israelis.

The Biden administration denied the punitive measures targeting Israel to bring about a cease-fire in Lebanon. A senior administration official during a Tuesday press briefing flatly denied that Biden threatened to sanction Israel at the council. The official said, “This topic never came up, not once. It’s only that we didn’t threaten it … literally the topic never came up, so, I don’t even know how to answer the question any other way. It is completely new to me. And none of us has heard of this before.”

Backing this up in his interview with Israel’s Ch. 12, Hochstein also denied the Biden administration threatened Israel over use of its U.N. Security Council veto if it did not sign the deal, saying, “There was no such discussion at any point,” adding “it never came up.”

The U.S. State Department did not immediately respond to a Fox News Digital press query.

THUNE THREATENS INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT WITH SANCTIONS IF IT DOESN’T DROP NETANYAHU WARRANT FOR ARRESTMourners raise their hands and chant slogans during the funeral procession of Hezbollah fighters who were killed in Friday's Israeli strike in the southern suburb of Beirut on Saturday, Sept. 21, 2024. AP Newsroom

Mourners raise their hands and chant slogans during the funeral procession of Hezbollah fighters who were killed in Friday’s Israeli strike in the southern suburb of Beirut on Saturday, Sept. 21, 2024. AP Newsroom© AP Newsroom

Biden’s carrot-and-stick approach toward the delivery of weapons to Israel as the tiny Jewish state fights a seven-front war against Islamic Republic of Iran proxies has been a source of friction between Netanyahu and its main ally, the United States.

Lt. Col. (Res.) Sarit Zehavi, president and founder of the Israel-based Alma Research and Education Center, told Fox News Digital that the IDF eliminated Hezbollah leadership, most of its rockets were eradicated, and it was pushed away from the border.  She said “The big question at stake remains, will Hezbollah recover and smuggle rockets and store them in Lebanon and south Lebanon again?”

Zehavi answered her question, “I am pretty sure that this deal will not.”

Lebanese experts have long argued that Hezbollah is the de facto ruler of Lebanon. The U.S., Canada and many European countries classify Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.

Zehavi said “The Lebanese government is not willing to change its relationship with Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a member of the Lebanese government.”

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President Biden speaks in the Rose Garden at the White House on Tuesday, Nov. 26, 2024 in Washington, D.C. AP Images© AP Images

She said she does expect enforcement of the terms of the cease-fire from The United Nations Interim Force In Lebanon (UNIFIL), the Lebanese armed forces and the Lebanese state. 

According to the cease-fire, the Lebanese government is required to stop the smuggling of weapons to Hezbollah, Zehavi noted.

“I accept this cease-fire with mixed feelings. As a resident of the north, I am happy that we have a cease-fire. I am happy that my daughter can go back to school. I am happy to go back to normality and to stop hearing sounds of war and running for shelter all the time.”Former President Donald Trump, left, shakes hands with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, on July 26. Getty Images

Former President Donald Trump, left, shakes hands with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, on July 26. Getty Images© Amos Ben-Gershom (GPO) / Handout/Anadolu via Getty Images

Mayors and local leaders in the northern towns ravaged by Hezbollah’s missile attacks opposed the cease-fire deal because the terms of the deal did not ensure they could safely reside in their homes.

Biden said that over 70,000 Israelis were forced to flee their homes in northern Israel because of Hezbollah’s rocket attacks. The number of displaced Israelis, according to experts in Israel, may be as high as 100,000 people.

UNIFIL spokesman Andrea Tenenti told Fox News Digital that, “The proliferation of weapons outside state control in Lebanon has been an undeniable fact, and that in south Lebanon – south of the Litani River – is a flagrant violation of Resolution 1701. But, as stated earlier, UNIFIL is not mandated to disarm Hezbollah or other groups by force. The Mission does not have the mandate to forcibly enter any location unless there is credible evidence that actions leading to hostile activity are taking place in that location.”

Fox News Digital reported on the alleged failures of UNSC 1701, whose aim is to dislodge Hezbollah from southern Lebanon and disarm the terrorist organization.  

When asked by CNN about incoming Trump National Security Adviser Rep. Mike Waltz, R-Fla., attributing the cease-fire deal to the Trump effect, Jake Sullivan said, “This peace deal was reached because Israel achieved its military objectives, because the stakeholders in Lebanon decided they didn’t want war anymore, and because of relentless American diplomacy led by President Biden, driven by her envoy Amos Hochstein, coordinated in this building behind me by the National Security Council. That’s how this came to pass.”

Waltz wrote on X, “Everyone is coming to the table because of President Trump. His resounding victory sent a clear message to the rest of the world that chaos won’t be tolerated. I’m glad to see concrete steps towards deescalation in the Middle East. But let’s be clear: The Iran Regime is the root cause of the chaos & terror that has been unleashed across the region. We will not tolerate the status quo of their support for terrorism.”

A Trump-Vance transition official told Fox News Digital that, “President Trump has been crystal clear that his support for Israel and his commitment to peace in the Middle East is steadfast. Hezbollah understands this is their best opportunity to get a more favorable deal done. Iran-backed proxies clearly see the clock ticking as President Trump will soon return to the White House with a strong national security team, including Marco Rubio, Mike Waltz, and Pete Hegseth, with U.S. intelligence led by Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe. President Trump rightfully predicted that actors in the region would make moves toward peace because of his historic victory — and that’s exactly what we are seeing take place.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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KOMMONSENTSJANE – Rogan says the ‘greatest media psy-op in history’ was waged against Trump: ‘They’ve distorted who he is’..

11/30/2024

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But, that didn’t stop the |Democrats/Plouffe lying the whole time trying to make people think the world salad lady was leading the horse race.

They sure did lie about him – but, they didn’t fool the American people who voted for him.

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We went from Walter Cronkite basically to this guy Joe.

Which is a good thing because he is exposing all of the worms.

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Joe Rogan argued that the establishment media that once was friendly to President-elect Donald Trump has since been engaged in a years-long “psy-op” to convince Americans he is dangerous.

“The Joe Rogan Experience” is one of the world’s most popular podcasts, and Rogan is seen as having been one of the key players in the 2024 election, for interviewing Trump and then endorsing his bid for the presidency in the 11th hour. The podcaster has since mocked the media for losing their credibility with voters and alienating lifelong liberals like himself.

On Thursday’s episode, with comedians Shane Gillis, Mark Normans, and Ari Shaffir, Rogan recalled how friendly people in entertainment and the media once were to Trump, playing clips from his 2012 appearance on “The View” where he was cheered, as well as when he went on Oprah in and she asked him about running for president. 

Since then, “The View” has become a frequent source for apocalyptic takes about Trump, and Oprah shredded him while campaigning with Vice President Kamala Harris. Rogan argued that the abrupt shift in tone toward Trump has been shocking in retrospect, “What we saw is the greatest media psy-op in history.”

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The podcast host continued to hammer legacy media.

“What you’re seeing with Trump, regardless of his flaws, is a massive concentrated psy-op,” Rogan said. “They’ve distorted who he is to the point where most people think that way. Most people think that way. They’ve had narratives.”

“What is a psy-op? I keep hearing that,” Normand said.

“Psychological operation,” Rogan explained. “Where they’ve decided to distort people’s perceptions of things.”

Shaffir replied that older liberals are shocked to hear that former President Obama oversaw more deportations than Trump. “They go, ‘That doesn’t make sense.’ And you go, ‘Right, focus on what’s giving you the reality of the world,’” he said.Podcast host Joe Rogan's interview with Trump currently has over 52 million views. Fox News

Podcast host Joe Rogan’s interview with Trump currently has over 52 million views. Fox News© Screenshots/The Joe Rogan Experience

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Rogan then turned to his producer, Jamie, and asked him to show a “wild” quote from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 2008 where she was “saying some wild MAGA-type s—” about “illegal immigrants.”

Clinton could be heard in the recording declaring, “I think we got to have tough conditions. Tell people to come out of the shadows. If they’ve committed a crime, deport them, no questions asked.”A new $59 smartwatch that monitors blood sugar painlessly in just a few seconds

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“She’s a Republican,” Shaffir joked.

In the recording, Clinton continued, “If they’ve been working and are law-abiding, we should say, ‘Here are the conditions for you staying. You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally. You have to pay back taxes and you have to try to learn English. And you have to wait in line.’”

The guests expressed their shock at Clinton’s past comments.

“’You have to wait in line,’ And everybody’s cheering,” Rogan said. “2008. Hillary Clinton was more MAGA than Trump. But how about that? More MAGA than Trump. It’s all a f—ing illusion. It’s all a f—ing illusion. All of them, when convenient, have said the exact same things.”

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Rogan argued that this election shows that the tide has turned, however.

“They had control of the media up until now. This election was the first time they didn’t really have control of the media anymore,” Rogan argued.

When asked why this is, the podcaster replied, “Because of us, because of podcasts. Because of social media, because of X.”

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