KOMMONSENTSJANE – WHAT’S THE BEEF -HOW MANY PLANES HAS MCCAIN LOST?

President Trump questioned fellow Republican, Sen. John McCain – after McCain questioned the success of a military raid in Yemen that resulted in the death of a Navy SEAL and the loss of a MV-22 Osprey aircraft..

While the military reported taking a trove of information following the Jan. 29 nighttime raid on an Al Qaeda compound, Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens was killed and three other troops were wounded. U.S. forces also were forced to destroy an MV-22 Osprey aircraft after a “hard landing.”

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McCain had said in a Wednesday statement that he “would not describe any operation that results in the loss of American life as a success.” White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer later fired back, saying “anyone who undermines the success of that raid owes an apology and [does] a disservice,” but didn’t mention McCain by name. Trump, however, held nothing back.

“Sen. McCain should not be talking about the success or failure of a mission to the media. Only emboldens the enemy! He’s been losing so long he doesn’t know how to win anymore, just look at the mess our country is in – bogged down in conflict all over the place,” Trump wrote in a series of morning tweets. “Our hero Ryan died on a winning mission (according to [Secretary of Defense] General Mattis), not a ‘failure.’ Time for the U.S. to get smart and start winning again!”

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It looks like Sen. McCain knows all about losing airplanes since he has lost his share of planes during his Navy career as a pilot.

Update, Oct. 12: We have further updated this article to include details from newly released Navy records of an investigation that found McCain’s first crash was due to pilot error, and not, as McCain has stated, an engine failure. The L.A. Times story also pinpointed the dates of early incidents more closely, and we have rewritten and re-ordered some sections to reflect this new information.

Update, Sept 19: This item was originally posted Sept. 5, 2008. We have updated it to include additional details of the 1967 Forrestal disaster from official documents, which differ from McCain’s own, widely accepted recollection. We have also included McCain’s admission of “daredevil clowning” in an accident that did not result in loss of his plane.

We have had numerous questions about this widely circulated claim. Some say McCain “lost” five planes, others that he “crashed” five planes. All offer this alleged “fact” as evidence that he was a bad pilot.

McCain did lose two Navy aircraft while piloting them. One crash was found to be be McCain’s fault, the other due to an engine failure of undetermined cause.. A third was destroyed on the deck of the carrier USS Forrestal when a missile fired accidentally from another plane hit either the plane next to McCain’s or, less likely, his own aircraft, triggering a disastrous fire that killed 134 sailors and nearly killed McCain.  (Not true –  he came out without a scratch.)  A fourth plane was lost when he was shot down over North Vietnam on a bombing mission over Hanoi.

A fifth alleged “crash” turns out to be a misinterpretation of a flight accident that did not result in the loss of the aircraft. McCain admitted to causing that incident through “daredevil clowning” but returned safely.

So, as we can see McCain has HEAVY experience on losing airplanes.  My suggestion is that McCain and Lindsey Graham should stop fighting their own war and instead join the team and be a team member.   Or, are they just seeking attention since their Hillary lost.  Remember the two of them were trying to make a deal with the rebels and were not successful fighting Assad who is being backed by Russia.  Is that why they both hate Russia as they do?

Undoubtedly, they were trying to follow President Trump’s, Art of the Deal, in their negotiations with the rebels, but, failed to read the chapter about “closing” the deal – is that when ISIS was formed?

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About kommonsentsjane

Enjoys sports and all kinds of music, especially dance music. Playing the keyboard and piano are favorites. Family and friends are very important.
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