Where were the issues confronting the country instead of listening to these two whining juveniles?
After thinking about this all day and the manner in which Cruz and Rubio teamed up to attack Trump was interesting in that after analyzing what was said between the three, it struck me that here are two Senators, Cruz and Rubio, elected by the people who are sent to D.C. to make the laws. Now, from what Rubio stated that Trump used people from Poland on one of his jobs.
My question is, how did these people from Poland enter into the U.S. to do this work and what type of work permits did the government give to these people. Where were the laws that these two Senators are suppose to have in place to be sure businesses follow them. Cruz and Rubio blamed Trump for using these people – but where were the laws that Cruz and Rubio were suppose to have in place and followed. I blame Cruz and Rubio for not enforcing laws, such as “E” verify. So it was not Trumps fault but Rubio and Cruz for not upholding and following the very Constitution they say that Trump defied by using workers from Poland.
I also have to inject that when an employer (Trump) draws workers from a contracting firm, it is not the responsibility of the employer who uses the contract workers as to who the people are which they are furnishing and the employer has to rely on the contractor that the people are qualified to work. Cruz and Rubio have never hired or fired people so they are completely out of bounds on this topic.
Cruz and Trump keep touting the Constitution but that is just window dressing to get votes. The debate was not a debate about the issues in this country but about themselves – Cruz and Rubio – and trying to hurt Trump.
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Marco Rubio Totally Dumped on Donald Trump at the GOP Debate
By Emily Stewart Follow | 02/26/16 – 12:26 PM EST
Rubio Says Donald Trump hired illegal workers “from Poland and he had to pay a million dollars or so in a judgment.”
We Googled ‘Trump Polish workers.’ Here’s what we found.
By Linda Qiu on Thursday, February 25th, 2016 at 11:30 p.m.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio charged Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump with hypocrisy for hiring undocumented immigrants for his real estate projects instead of American citizens.
“He hired from Poland, and he had to pay a million dollars or so in a judgment,” Rubio said. “That’s a fact. People can look it up. I’m sure people are Googling it right now, ‘Trump Polish workers.’ You’ll see $1 million for hiring illegal workers on one of his projects. He did.”
“Wrong, wrong,” Trump said.
We did some Googling and also reached out to the Rubio campaign, which referred us to media reports about a protracted class-action lawsuit involving his hiring of Polish aliens 36 years ago.
Rubio is right about the Polish workers, but it’s unclear how much Trump ended up paying. (The Trump campaign did not get back to us.) Here’s the story.
Sometime between 1979 and 1980, Trump hired a contractor to demolish an old building in midtown Manhattan to make way for Trump Tower. The contractor signed on workers from a local union and, to meet Trump’s tight deadline, also brought on 200 undocumented laborers from Poland dubbed the “Polish Brigade.”
The Polish employees were off-the-books, working 12-hour shifts seven days a week for $4 to $5 an hour, with no overtime. Some workers were never paid what they were owed.
In 1983, union members sued a union boss, Trump and his contractor for cheating the union out of pension and welfare funds by hiring the Polish Brigade. Trump owed the union pension fund $1 million, the plaintiffs said.
Appearing in court in 1990, Trump blamed the violations on the contractor and denied knowing that the Polish workers were undocumented.
“Nobody’s proven to me that they were were illegal,” Trump said, according to a Newsday report from the time.
Nonetheless, Manhattan Judge Charles Stewart ruled against Trump a year later, saying that his representative “knew that the Polish workers were doing demolition work” and that his company participated in a “conspiracy” to cheat the union.
Trump owed the workers a little more than $325,000 plus interest and attorney’s fees and costs, Stewart ruled.
That wasn’t the end of it. Trump appealed and it would drag on for another decade.
In 1998, several members of the Polish Brigade told the New York Times about their horrid working conditions. But Trump repeated that he didn’t know about the legal status of the Polish Brigade and said he would not settle the case out of court “on principle,” according to the New York Times.
If the case was retried and Trump lost again, he would have had to pay about $4 million, the Times calculated.
A year later, Trump quietly settled, according to the New York Daily News, but the agreement was placed under seal.
“It has been resolved on terms agreeable to both sides,” labor lawyer Wendy Sloan, who represented the union members, told the New York Daily News.
Our ruling
Rubio said Trump “hired from Poland and he had to pay a million dollars or so in a judgment.”
It was Trump’s contractor, not Trump himself, who hired 200 undocumented Polish workers to demolish a building to make room for Trump Tower in Manhattan. Trump said he didn’t know. The lawsuit sought $1 million in damages, and a judge ruled that Trump had to pay $325,000 plus interest.
But the case was appealed and before it was retried, Trump settled the case out of court, so it’s unclear how much he ended up doling out.
Rubio’s statement is partially accurate but missing that context. We rate Rubio’s claim Half True.
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Rubio said so more than once at Thursday’s Republican presidential debate. And that’s not the only piece of the boisterous billionaire’s dirty laundry he aired last night.
With Super Tuesday on the horizon and 595 Republican delegates up for grabs, the GOP race for the White House has hit fever pitch, and at Thursday night’s debate, tempers boiled over. Florida Senator Rubio, who has been widely anointed the GOP establishment candidate, came in ready to strike against frontrunner Trump.
He unloaded what seemed like his entire bag of tracks — as in oppo research — in about a five-minute span.
Here’s how it went down: Rubio stood beside Trump patiently on the debate stage as the former real estate magnate reiterated his call for a wall at the southern border, going as far as to float the idea of engaging in a trade war should Mexico refuse to fit the bill.
When asked if he wanted to respond, Rubio started, “Yeah, a couple points.” And then he laid in, attacking Trump on hiring undocumented Polish workers to help build Trump Towers; on his clothing line being made in Mexico; on his four bankruptcies; on Trump University and the lawsuits it’s facing; and on how Trump’s fortune started with a million dollar loan from his father and a multi-million dollar inheritance.
And all in several thrilling minutes near the beginning of the debate.
“If he builds the wall the way he built Trump Towers, he’ll be using illegal immigrant labor to do it,” Rubio said. When Trump quipped that the claim was simply a sound bite, he shot back, “No, it’s not a sound bite. It’s a fact. Again, go online and Google it. Donald Trump, Polish workers, you’ll see it.”
(By the looks of it, people did.)
According to PolitiFact, Rubio was referring to an episode that occurred between 1979 and 1980, when Trump hired a contractor to demolish an old building in midtown Manhattan to build Trump Tower. The contractor signed on workers from a local union and also brought on 200 undocumented workers from Poland. The “Polish Brigade,” as the laborers were called, worked 12-hour shifts seven days a week for $4 to $5 an hour, and some were never paid what they were owed.
In 1983, union members sued a union boss, Trump and his contractor over the episode, claiming the real estate magnate owed their pension fund $1 million — Rubio also referred to the lawsuit. Trump lost the original suit, but the issue dragged on for years, and he finally settled in the late 1990s. The agreement was placed under seal.
At Thursday’s debate, Trump brushed off the Polish workers attack, at one point pointing out that the incident had happened 38 years ago, to which Rubio replied, “Oh, he lied 38 years ago. All right, I guess there’s a statute of limitations on lies.”
Immediately after his Polish workers reference, Rubio laid out a second offensive on Trump’s trade war comments — namely, that many of the items from his clothing line are manufactured abroad.
“Your ties and the clothes you make is made in Mexico and in China. So you’re going to be starting a trade war against your own ties and your own suits,” Rubio said. “Why don’t they make them in America?”
“Because they devalue their currency, they devalue their currencies,” Trump replied. “That makes it, well, you don’t know a thing about business. You lose on everything.”
When Trump added that Rubio “wouldn’t know anything about it because you’re a lousy businessman,” the senator had a retort ready to go: Trump’s bankruptcies. “Well, I don’t know anything about bankrupting four companies,” he said.
Trump’s bankruptcies have been a hot topic at more than one debate this election cycle. The former reality television star’s businesses filed for Chapter 11 in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009; three of the cases were related to his hotel and casino properties in Atlantic City, N.J. (another sore spot for Trump).
At a previous debate last November, Trump was quick to point out that out of hundreds of deals, on four occasions he’s “taken advantage of the law of this country, like other people.”
On Thursday night, the GOP frontrunner got little opportunity to defend himself on that front, because Rubio had already launched his next bomb: Trump University.
Trump University (later renamed the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative) was an online education company Trump launched in 2005, offering courses in real estate, asset management and entrepreneurship. Though the entity stopped operations in 2010, in 2013, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a $40 million suit against Trump and the company, alleging they had illegally operated an unlicensed university and defrauded students.
Litigation has taken place in California as well, with one class action suit being led by customer Art Cohen, who spent upwards of $36,000 on Trump programs and alleges the university failed to deliver its promises to provide a premier education.
Rubio referenced the suit Thursday. “There are people who borrowed $36,000 to go to Trump University, and they’re suing now,” he said. “$36,000 to go to a university that’s a fake school. And you know what they got? They got to take a picture with a cardboard cutout of Donald Trump.”
Trump’s response: “I’ve won most of the lawsuits. And they actually did a very good job, but I’ve won most of the lawsuits.”
Ted Cruz weighed in on Trump University later in the evening as well. “His lawyers have scheduled the trial for July,” he said. “I want you to think about, if this man is the nominee, having a Republican nominee on the stand in court, being cross-examined about whether he committed fraud. You don’t think the mainstream media will go crazy on that?”
When moderator Wolf Blitzer attempted to move on from the Trump-Rubio scuffle, Trump tossed a wrench into the wheel and made reference to a house sale Rubio made to a lobbyist in 2007.
And yet again, the senator was ready to fight back: “Here’s a guy that inherited $200 million. If he hadn’t inherited $200 million, you know where Donald Trump would be right now? Selling watches in Manhattan.”
On that one, Rubio stretched the truth. Trump started out in business with what he has called a “small” $1 million loan from his father, and as Politico notes, he likely inherited about $40 million.
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Cruz and Rubio make issue about Trump being a dealer…….I would bet the 2 made a deal to gang up on Trump. Also, I thought, Rubio on Israel and Palestine…….. “you don’t make deals”? With that kind of mind-set, how can there be a chance at peace anywhere? You (Trump) can side with Israel, be in a neutral place if initiating a peace agreement; (how do you do that without discussion with both sides. That is what an agreement is, a deal…. I don’t think its one that will ever happen in the Middle East, especially with Israel and Palestine. If there is a fraction of a chance it is impossible without discussion. Rubio and Cruz are idiots. This is what we have in Congress, morons.
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