KOMMONSENTSJANE – CARDINAL DOLAN DOESN’T SPEAK FOR ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE

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Following is Cardinal Timothy Dolan’s remarks about Trump’s immigration remarks:

Cardinal Dolan slams Trump’s ‘virulent’ immigration remarks

New York City, N.Y., Jul 29, 2015

For Cardinal Dolan, the “virulent strain” of American nativism is not a thing of the past – it’s alive, well and seeded in presidential candidate Donald Trump’s recent remarks on the topic of immigration.

“Nativists believed the immigrant to be dangerous, and that America was better off without them,” Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York said in a July 29 guest column for New York Daily News.

“All these poor degenerates did, according to the nativists, was to dilute the clean, virtuous, upright citizenry of God-fearing true Americans.”

Cardinal Dolan’s column is in response to several offensive comments made on multiple occasions by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump about Mexican immigrants.

The Cardinal recalled how before becoming a bishop he taught American religious history to university students, dedicating a portion of the class to “the ugly phenomenon called nativism.”

He offered a brief outline of nativism in America, noting its appearance in the 1840s and 1850s under the popular political party “the Know-Nothings.” It appeared again, he observed, in the 1870s as the American Protective Association and in the 1920s as the KKK.

Finally he pointed to post-World War II America, naming the Protestants and Other Americans United for Separation of Church and State group as nativists.

Although his students might argue that the days of bigotry and belief that immigrants are nothing more than “dirty, drunken, irresponsible, dangerous threats to clean, white, Protestant, Anglo-Saxon America” are gone, the cardinal begs to differ.

“I wish I were in the college classroom again, so I could roll out my ‘Trump card’ to show the students that I was right. Nativism is alive, well – and apparently popular!”

Trump, in his speech launching his presidential campaign, had said that “the U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. And these aren’t the best and the finest.”

“When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best, they’re sending people who have a lot of problems…they’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some I assume are good people.”

“I speak to border guards, and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people,” he said, adding that these immigrants don’t only come from Mexico, but also from South America and likely the Middle East.

In a June 28 interview with CNN Trump spoke of making Mexico build a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border, saying that a wall is needed in certain areas.

He said he would force Mexico to build the wall “because we give them a fortune. Mexico makes a fortune because of us. A wall is a tiny little peanut compared to that. I would do something very severe unless they contributed or gave us the money to build the wall.”

In his column, Cardinal Dolan described nativism with the same words as scholar and author Ray Allen Billington, calling it “organized, white, Protestant antagonism toward the Catholic immigrant.”

He said that he is not telling anyone who they should vote for, but stressed that as a Catholic “I take seriously the Bible’s teaching that we are to welcome the stranger, one of the most frequently mentioned moral imperatives in both the Old and New Testament.”

The cardinal then pointed to two attitudes toward immigrants described by various American historians, the first being the nativists.

These people “sadly… (view) the unwashed, ignorant, bothersome brood as criminals and misfits who threaten ‘pure America,’ and are toxic to everything decent in the United States.”

However, the second, “more enlightened and patriotic” approach sees the immigrant as a gift to the nation, realizing that Native Americans are the only citizens whose ancestors were not immigrants.

The second group still recognizes the need for border control, fair regulation and prudent policies, but “we are wise to consider the immigrant as good for our beloved nation,” the cardinal said.

“To welcome them is virtuous, patriotic and beneficial for the economic and cultural future of our country.”

As a Catholic, the cardinal admitted to being “a bit biased” toward immigrants, and expressed his eagerness to share the work Catholic Charities in New York is doing to assist immigrants with Pope Francis during his September visit to the United States.

American patriotism and Catholicism have always been slightly at odds with each other in the United States, he said.

Dolan referred to how poet Walt Whitman called his predecessor Archbishop John Hughes a “mitred hypocrite” for an American, due to his defense of his “poor Irish immigrant flock – the Mexicans of his day – from the nativists.”

He then noted how Whitman himself referred to immigrants as “these dregs of foreign filth, refuse of convents, scullions from monasteries.”

It is a good thing Whitman stuck to poetry, and did not run for President.”

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Following is the opposite position of the Catholic Church:

With Apologies to Donald Trump for the Crazy ‘Nativist’ Rant of Cardinal Dolan

by Fr. Marcel Guarnizo

30 Jul 2015

This week, Cardinal Timothy Dolan took to the New York Daily News to write an incoherent and defamatory political hit piece against Donald Trump.

As a Catholic priest, I can only say it is embarrassing to have a Cardinal so blatantly and unfairly trying to associate Mr. Trump with the worst kinds of racism imaginable. I offer an apology on behalf of so many Catholics who are outraged by the dirty politics of Cardinal Dolan.

Ever so “cleverly,” Dolan makes clear that in his opinion Trump is the revival of nativism, “an organized, white, Protestant antagonism towards the Catholic immigrant,” which for Dolan is just a more recent incarnation of the KKK and other racist organizations–an absurd claim–and perhaps one of the most ignorant statements and mean-spirited remarks I have ever seen a bishop state publicly. The more than clear implication by Dolan that Trump is a white supremacist reaches levels of defamation that even the most liberal media has not dare trod.

Dolan should perhaps realize that the continued race-baiting in this country by President Obama and others is immoral and destructive to the social fabric of our nation. For Dolan to join the base ranks of the peddlers of hate, dividing Catholics and Protestants, blacks and white, the poor and the rich as well as Americans from immigrants is intellectually dishonest. Dolan’s words are unbecoming of a bishop and are not factual.

Dolan who is quick to claim that he is not telling people who they should not vote for, provides the usual vacuous caveat only after he has done all the damage. This is the same bishop who is silent about the recently revealed atrocities of Planned Parenthood, who did little to defend marriage and has done absolutely nothing about pro abortion politicians in his diocese receiving communion and remaining falsely in good standing in the Catholic Church.

Dolan laments that he is not still teaching in college his absurd nativist ideology. I can only say I am relieved for those who would be subjected to his indoctrination, lamentably he has free rein to attack Republicans in the public square.

Dolan is not known for his intellectual depth but his aides should consider reading over his pubic statements to spare American Catholics some embarrassment. Dolan seems jovially unaware of the social unrest that lax immigration laws are causing in France, England and other nations in Europe. It is not Catholic or Christian to advocate for irresponsible immigration. Immigration to be of any help to immigrants and the host country, requires order, knowledge and balance.

Dolan who is also not known for his humility and mercy will likely never apologize, but he should.

If Dolan were to say something sensible about politics to Catholics he should perhaps state the obvious: no Catholic in good conscience can vote for the Democratic party, a party that supports funding Planned Parenthood, opposes marriage, and is seen to be devastating the social fabric of this nation while bringing economic ruin to a once prosperous country.

Truth be told, Dolan who has been busy closing numerous Catholic parishes in New York and selling valuable Catholic real estate, could frankly use Trump’s business acumen advice.

I apologize as a Catholic priest to Mr. Trump and wish to let him know that many of us desire to publicly disassociate ourselves from any perception that what Cardinal Dolan wrote is any way consistent with Catholic doctrine or the basic decency required of all people of good will.

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Now, it is time for citizens to have their opinions published:

Why doesn’t Cardinal Dolan slam Planned Parenthood?   Why doesn’t he slam the mongrel illegal aliens who rape and murder our citizens – a good example is Kate in San Francisco – an illegal coward who shot this women in the back.  This was set up by the Democratic Party to enrage the American people so the leader could take the guns of American people.

If you don’t think socialism has infiltrated every facet of our lives, then you are in denial. By the way, since 2008 in the state of Texas alone, illegal aliens have been implicated in over 600,000 crimes including 7,600 sexual assaults and almost 3,000 homicides.

Donald Trump was speaking about the criminals that came over here. I look at the situation in this country and cannot fail to realize our moral compass is failing. Our police and military are being persecuted without any recourse. Our homeless people has increased to a third world country. We need a strong America!!

Excuse me, Cardinal Dolan, but when was the last time you, or any of our other bishops, found the guts to stand up and call the moral slob who reigns from the White House exactly what he is: a race-baiting, diabolically anti-Semitic, anti-American traitor whose every act is an outrage against sanity and whose demeanor gives relentless evidence that he rejoices in the suffering he causes; who publicly declares “God bless Planned Parenthood” and insists that video proof of their baby-crunching barbarity, is ‘doctored?’   Until you find the courage to overcome your fear of being thought a racist and call that man out, don’t waste your time or your breath nanny-wagging Donald Trump and expect me to listen.

With Obama, there’s very little doubt of his ill-will; if that man has ever had a single, slightest, noble sentiment in his breast, I’ve never caught a glimpse of it. In fact, I suggest that if you were to present him with two options, equally likely to yield the same exact result—but, one option was licit, the other illicit—he would choose the illicit option, just to poke his finger in somebody’s eye.

You’ve really got to want to believe Donald Trump is a racist, though, in order to force his words to make it seem that he is one. Whether he’d make the best president, I don’t know; but his love of people and country is as plainly evident as is President Obama’s contempt for people and hatred of country.

The Irish government didn’t push one ethnic type(mestizo) out in favor of another (European). This illegal immigration is ethnic cleansing by the elites in Mexico and Central America.

I’m with Trump. Cardinal Dolan should fix what’s wrong in the Church not the borders. The same goes for our dear Pope who finds things wrong with stuff for which he has no responsibility and ignores stuff for which he has a solemn duty. It sure is a lot easier to mind someone else’ business,  Cardinal Dolan?

The writer’s opinion is that we have to elect a business man in the Oval Office who can run the country as a business not as a charity organization.  This is what our present leader is doing to the American people by giving away the country’s wealth and goods.  Our politicians have gotten in bed with the lobbyists and the Chamber of Commerce so they have fallen in that same bed.  We currently have  immigration laws which are currently on the shelf in the White House.  We don’t need any new laws.  They just need to dust off the present laws and put them to work!  Even Bush 2 put them on the shelf!

It seems the politicians and the church wants to make America a third world so they can continue their wealth distribution of America’s money and control the people.  That was the original purpose of indebting the American people, trying to take the guns away from the people, and then they could control the people.  We must never allow this to happen.

Cardinal Dolan stepped out of line with the America people!

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