KOMMONSENTSJANE – HOW WAS THIS TESTED – THAT THIS HAPPENED??

1/31/2024

Fox News contributor Joe Concha said, “If you needed any more proof this whole suit and verdict was a crock, here it is. And of course, Maddow still soaks it all up while not realizing how damaging this is.”

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Women wonder why people don’t believe or take them seriously when they holler RAPE? This is a good example.

If this had really happened – she wouldn’t be beating the concrete “making fun of being raped – for sure.”

This only makes it harder for women who have been raped!

FOX News

E. Jean Carroll jokes about going on shopping spree with Rachel Maddow with ‘Trump’s money!

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E. Jean Carroll’s “joke” from Monday night’s episode of “The Rachel Maddow Show” sparked outrage after she appeared to undermine her defamation suit against former President Trump.

A federal jury last week ordered Trump to pay Carroll $83.3 million in damages in her defamation suit against him, stemming from comments he’s made denying he sexually assaulted her in the 1990s.

During another stop on her media tour, Carroll was asked by the MSNBC host about previous remarks she made suggesting that any money she would receive from Trump would go directly to “help shore up women’s rights.”

“Yes, Rachel! Yes!” Carroll enthusiastically responded. “I had such, such great ideas for all the good I’m gonna do with this money.”

E. Jean Carroll appears on "The Rachel Maddow Show" on MSNBC on January 29, 2024. MSNBC / Screenshot

E. Jean Carroll appears on “The Rachel Maddow Show” on MSNBC on January 29, 2024. MSNBC / Screenshot© MSNBC / Screenshot

TRUMP ACCUSER E JEAN CARROLL SAYS SHE WOULD ‘ABSOLUTELY’ SUE TRUMP AGAIN GIVEN OPPORTUNITY

“First thing Rachel, you and I are gonna go shopping!” she exclaimed. “We’re gonna get complete new wardrobes, new shoes, motorcycle for [Carroll’s attorney Shawn] Crowley, a new fishing rod for Robbie [Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan]- Rachel, what do you want? A penthouse? It’s yours, Rachel! Penthouse and France? You want France? You want to go fishing in France? No?”

As Maddow chuckled at Carroll’s proposal, Crowley awkwardly grinned and said, “That’s a joke.”

The clip went viral as many people said her remarks undermined her credibility. 

E. Jean Carroll joked about spending the money she received following a defamation lawsuit against Trump on "The Rachel Maddow Show" on MSNBC on January 29, 2024. MSNBC / Screenshot

E. Jean Carroll joked about spending the money she received following a defamation lawsuit against Trump on “The Rachel Maddow Show” on MSNBC on January 29, 2024. MSNBC / Screenshot© MSNBC / Screenshot

Fox News contributor Joe Concha said, “If you needed any more proof this whole suit and verdict was a crock, here it is. And of course, Maddow still soaks it all up while not realizing how damaging this is.”

“Rough night for MSNBC,” Outkick founder Clay Travis remarked.

“This shows exactly what’s wrong with the justice system. You’re claiming the harm to your reputation was so bad you need millions to compensate for it, then you make these types of jokes. This also paints real assault survivors in bad lights and makes them seem money hungry. Absolutely disgusting,” Independent Women’s Forum spokesperson Paula Scanlan wrote. 

“She’s a nutball,” The Spectator contributing editor Stephen Miller said.

Radio host Rob O’Donnell explained, “Being in Law Enforcement and public safety for over 3 decades having worked special victims cases, this is not the mindset of a victim. No amount of money can ever make whole a true victim of sexual assault nonetheless make them giddy.”

“Deranged. Maddow served it up on a silver platter for E. Jean Carroll and she decided to be unhinged in her response,” conservative commentator Steve Guest wrote.

Donald Trump was ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million following a defamation lawsuit. AP Photo/Eduardo Munoz Alvarez

Donald Trump was ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million following a defamation lawsuit. AP Photo/Eduardo Munoz Alvarez© AP Photo/Eduardo Munoz Alvarez, File

E. JEAN CARROLL SAYS GAYLE KING REVEALED OFF-CAMERA SHE YELLED ‘HOORAY’ IN REACTION TO TRUMP VERDICT

Carroll sued Trump for defamation for comments he made in 2019, vigorously denying her rape allegations.

A federal jury in New York City decided last year that Trump was not liable for rape, but was liable for sexual abuse and defamation. The former president was ordered to pay $5 million in that trial.

Carroll also appeared on CNN Monday night to make another joke about how she’d spend the money but quickly clarified her comments.

“We talk about it a lot. We will do good with that money. We are going to do — Trump has suggested we turn Trump Tower into an animal sanctuary for instance. That was a joke. That was a joke,” Carroll said. “But no, we are inspired to not waste a penny over this, and we have some good ideas we are working on.”

Original article source: E. Jean Carroll takes heat for bizarre Maddow interview bragging about spending Trump’s money

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1/24/2024

Folks, you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear:

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Is this trial making a travesty out of rape?

1/20/2024

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Question – Trump assaulted a person in a dressing room in a large department store. This is above my pay grade.

But, normally, you would: 

Did she scream when it happened? If she didn’t – why didn’t she? Did she call the police and report it at that time and go to the ER and have a test? 

Did she keep all of her clothes?

Who is paying for her court costs?

Or, is this a continuation of the GET TRUMP supported by the lefties? 

NY COURT?

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CBS News

Trump back in court following Iowa victory.

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A federal jury was selected in New York on Tuesday and tasked with determining how much money former President Donald Trump must pay the writer E. Jean Carroll for comments he made in 2019 denying he sexually assaulted her.

The trial is the second related to Carroll’s allegations and Trump’s subsequent denials. In May 2023, a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in a separate case, awarding Carroll $5 million in damages. That case focused on comments Trump made about Carroll in 2022, when he denied the abuse and called Carroll’s claim a “con job” and “hoax.”

The current case is centered on different comments Trump made in 2019, remarks the judge has already ruled were defamatory. The trial is focused solely on the damages Carroll should be awarded. Her attorneys are seeking $10 million for reputational harm, as well as other unspecified punitive damages.

The former president, fresh off his victory in the Iowa caucuses, attended the opening day of the trial in lower Manhattan. Carroll immediately sat down and looked straight ahead after he walked in the courtroom. Trump, seated in the third row of the area for attorneys, plaintiffs and defendants, sat directly behind her by two rows. He and Carroll did not appear to look at each other.

The nine-member jury was finalized in the afternoon, and each side delivered their opening arguments to close out the day.

What happened on Day 1 of the trial

The former president, fresh off his victory in the Iowa caucuses, attended the opening day of the trial in lower Manhattan. Carroll immediately sat down and looked straight ahead after he walked in the courtroom. Trump, seated in the third row of the area for attorneys, plaintiffs and defendants, sat directly behind her by two rows. He and Carroll did not appear to look at each other.

The trial began with jury selection, when a group of 50 New Yorkers was whittled to nine. As the prospective jurors filed in, some appeared to suddenly notice, with shock, that Trump was sitting in the room, turning to each other in surprise. Others appeared unfazed. 

It was the first time Trump has been in a room with jurors since before he became president, and he appeared to study nearly every one.

Dozens of prospective jurors indicated they have read or seen about the case, but all said they could be impartial. Nearly all indicated they’ve read or heard about Trump’s criminal cases. They were asked about contributions given to political campaigns, where they get their news, if they had read books by Carroll or Trump, and if they had watched “The Apprentice.”

Trump appeared to pay particular attention to the few who said they donated to his campaign, or believed the 2020 election was stolen, turning in his seat to look at them.

Each time Judge Lewis Kaplan stated that Trump had “sexually assaulted” Carroll, or that the current trial is just about damages, Trump could be seen shaking his head. 

Seven of the nine jurors chosen are men and all but one of the nine are White. At least three indicated they moved to the U.S. after growing up in Europe — specifically Germany, Ireland and Spain. Their jobs include a professional violinist and an emergency physician.

They all promised to be impartial. 

Trump stayed to watch the jurors questioned and chosen, but left before opening statements began.

Shawn Crowley, an attorney for Carroll, repeated at least 10 times that “Donald Trump sexually assaulted” Carroll.

Crowley recounted the original allegations that a jury last May found Trump liable for  — that Trump attacked Carroll during a chance encounter in a New York department store in the 1990s. She said Trump has continued to deny the allegations publicly and repeatedly, even though the jury in a unanimous verdict determined that the attack happened, based on a preponderance of the evidence. 

Crowley noted that the original defamations were done from the White House lawn in 2019 when Trump was in office.

“He had the biggest microphone on the planet…(and) used it to tear her reputation to shreds.”

She added that Trump “sat in this courtroom this morning, you saw him, and he posted more lies,” alluding to social media posts Trump made Tuesday.

Crowley said the jury must decide “how much money he (Trump) should pay to get him to stop doing it.”

Carroll watched Crowley and Trump attorney Alina Habba with focused attention, as did the jurors. 

Habba argued that Carroll was first targeted by “mean tweets and Twitter trolls” during a “five-hour window” between when her allegations were first published, and when Trump first commented on them.

She implied that window rebuts Carroll’s contention that those who have attacked her credibility were parroting, or inspired by, Trump.

“It is no secret that if you make explosive allegations against a sitting president, people react, both good and bad,” Habba said.

Habba also said that far from having her reputation ruined, Carroll has gained new standing among a group of prominent Trump critics.

Habba claimed Carroll has sought to “capitalize” on her cases, becoming “more famous than she’s ever been.”

“We will show that it is Ms. Carroll’s intention to continue to capitalize,” Habba said.

What is Trump accused of?

Former President Donald Trump departs Trump Tower in New York on Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2024. / Credit: David Dee Delgado/Bloomberg via Getty Images© Provided by CBS News

In June 2019, Carroll wrote a story for New York magazine alleging that Trump attacked her in the department store Bergdorf Goodman in New York City in the mid-1990s. After walking through the store together and engaging in playful banter, Carroll said Trump cornered her in a dressing room stall and sexually assaulted her with his fingers. She said she managed to free herself and left, telling two of her friends soon after.

After her story was published, Trump denied the allegations on several occasions, saying they were “totally false” and claiming he had never met her. Carroll sued him for defamation in response in November 2019.

The case stalled in court while Trump was president. The Justice Department initially defended Trump, unsuccessfully arguing he was shielded from liability by federal law since he was acting as a federal employee when he made his comments.

Carroll filed her second defamation suit in 2022, shortly after Trump reiterated his denial. Carroll’s team also added the claim of rape under New York’s Adult Survivors Act, which briefly removed the statute of limitations for such allegations.

The jury unanimously sided with Carroll in finding Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation, but ruled he was not liable for rape. While the case took place in federal court, it was considered under the New York penal code, which only considers an attack “rape” if a person forces his genitals into another person.

On multiple occasions since, the judge in the case, Lewis Kaplan, has written that the abuse was rape in “common modern parlance,” if not under the strict interpretation of the state’s penal code.

In September, Kaplan ruled that Trump was liable for defamation in the case going to trial on Tuesday. Since Carroll was able to prove she was sexually abused under state law, Trump’s statements painting Carroll as a liar were defamatory, he said.

Just one day after the jury found him liable, Trump made additional statements about Carroll, denying the allegations and saying he didn’t know her. Soon after, she amended her original lawsuit to ask for extra damages, citing those comments.

Last July, the Justice Department announced in a court filing that it would no longer defend Trump, since “sexual assault was obviously not job-related.”

Will Trump testify?

Trump is on the defense’s witness list. While he is not required to testify, Kaplan has indicated that if he intends to take the stand, he can do so next Monday, Jan. 22, the day before the New Hampshire primary.

Testimony in a trial related to damages is typically related to issues like net worth and earnings, not the facts of the matters already established — in this case, that sexual abuse occurred and defamatory statements were made. 

Kaplan issued an order in the case on Jan. 9 that bars Trump and his team from saying many of the things they’ve long said in their defense. They cannot deny that the sexual abuse happened or that he believed his statements were true, and he cannot comment on Carroll’s prior romantic relationships. 

Additionally, his team cannot question Carroll about her choice of attorney, Roberta Kaplan (no relation to the judge), or the person who helped fund her legal fight, Democratic megadonor Reid Hoffman. Trump’s side also cannot bring up the lack of DNA evidence in the case, which Roberta Kaplan has stated was Trump’s responsibility to establish, not Carroll’s. Roberta and Lewis Kaplan are not related.

Carroll’s attorneys have asserted that in order for Trump to testify, he should be required to state under oath that he assaulted Carroll and lied, a position his attorneys have taken issue with. 

Trump’s attorney Alina Habba filed a response to the court’s restrictions on his testimony, saying that “President Trump cannot and should not be made to testify under oath in any particular affirmative manner.” 

“We presume that this is not a kangaroo court of a third-world country where a party to a lawsuit is involuntarily made to say what a court and an opposing party wants them to say,” Habba wrote in a filing. 

How long will the trial last?

The trial in Manhattan is expected to last two to three days, with a fourth day possible if Trump decides to testify late in the proceedings. Although he is not required to, Trump attended the proceedings on Tuesday, despite not appearing at the previous trial in the same courtroom last May.

Last week, Trump’s team asked the judge to delay the trial so that he could attend his mother-in-law’s funeral, scheduled for Thursday. Lewis Kaplan denied the request, stating that a “postponement would disrupt and inconvenience prospective jurors, counsel, court staff, and security arrangements.” 

On Sunday, the judge offered to delay the end of the trial to allow Trump to testify on Jan. 22, the day before the New Hampshire primary.

During the trial, Carroll’s team will show much of the same evidence, and even call some of the same witnesses, from the first trial last May. The jury will likely hear from friends whom she initially told about the assault and two other women who have claimed to be sexually assaulted by Trump in a similar manner. The defense has also said they intend to mention the infamous Access Hollywood tape and portions of Trump’s pretrial deposition.

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Were they friends at the time?

After all of this – she will have a good/historical story to write about.

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